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Welcome to the Improved Anti-Slash/Femmeslash Club!
This club was made and dedicated for people who dislike slash and femmeslash. Much thanks to the visitors for giving us constructive criticism to make the club's position on slash/femmeslash even clearer.
Questions and Answers
What is Slash?
Slash is the term used to describe a fanmade pairing of two male characters that one or both have no romantic/sexual love interest for each other in the actual media they came from.
Well-Known Examples
Cloud x Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII)
Ed x Roy (Full Metal Alchemist)
Inuyasha x Sesshomaru (Inuyasha)
Naruto x Sasuke (Naruto)
Harry x Draco (Harry Potter)
Aragorn x Legolas (Lord of the Rings Trilogy)
Kirk x Spock (Star Trek)
Sora x Riku (Kingdom Hearts)
What is Femmeslash?
Femmeslash is exactly the same as Slash, except it's a pairing of two female characters.
Well-Known Examples
Sakura x Tomoyo (Card Captor Sakura)*
Lina x Naga (Slayers)
Aeris x Tifa (Final Fantasy VII)
Yukari x Nyamo (Azumanga Daioh)
Rei x Asuka (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Kim x Shego (Kim Possible)
Starfire x Raven (Teen Titans)
* = Note: This pairing is up for debate. There is evidence for both it being a femmeslash pairing as well as a canon pairing. If you feel you disagree with this or any other pairing, please don't hesitate to debate on the journal/front page. We'd be happy to fight back. ^_^
They're just pairings. What's wrong with that?
It's one thing to
make a pairing. It's another thing to change the sexual orientation of the character(s) just to give the pairing some sense. It's true that many het non-canon pairings make no sense, but in a large majority of slash/femmeslash pairings, it's completely out of the question. Before love and/or attraction occurs in any case, one has to understand that it's based on the person's sexual orientation. If a character is straight, then it makes sense that a person pairs him/her up with characters of the opposite gender. If a character is gay/lesbian, then it makes sense that a person pairs him/her up with characters of the same gender. What
doesn't make sense is to pair a straight character with another straight character of the same gender and vise versa, for outrageous reasons such as "they look hot together" or "it's my fantasy to see these two together." Changing a character's sexual orientation often times demands the character's personality to be be changed completely to fit that. In many cases of slash/femmeslash pairings, the actual canon pairings involving the characters are often ignored completely. For example, in the Kingdom Hearts games, it is obvious Sora is in love with Kairi, but SoraxRiku slash fanfics/fanart almost overlook this basic fact.This is where we stand firm.
Then what's yaoi then?
Yaoi is the Japanese term for
explicit images, stories, animations, etc. of two males. When fans go "I love [insert media name here] yaoi!," they're actually saying "I love erotic [insert media name here] slash!," with the exception of media that already have yaoi.
Yaoi and slash are not the same thing. One actually exists as a canon, if not an erotic pairing. The other is a creation of fans. Same goes for Yuri and femmeslash.
I have this pairing of two characters, and it makes almost absolute sense, if it weren't for the sexual orientation of one/both of the characters! Would you still consider it slash/femmeslash?
It's still slash/femmeslash, because that implies you're changing the sexual orientation of one or both of the characters. See the Sakura x Tomoyo pairing above.
What reasons do members have to join this club?
Besides the above reasons, every member has their own ideas why they're joining. Some people join because they don't like the idea of non-canon pairings. Some people join because they've been harassed by slash/femmeslash fans. Some people join because they're tired of seeing art/fanfiction wherever they go of two non-canon characters of the same gender. Etc. Bashing for such specific reasons can be called harassment and will not be tolerated.
What's your term for changing the sexual orientation of an established gay/lesbian character to fit a pairing?
Non-canon. The history of the term "slash" may have homophobic roots, but that's the accepted and known definition.
If you know the term for this complication as well as proof of it being an actual term, by all means, send a note please!
They're just cartoons! Fictional! Not-real!
Some of us take our cartoons seriously, like some fans do with their celebrities and sports. We're all fans of something.
Do you guys hate shounen-ai/shoujo-ai/yaoi/yuri?
No, we're accepting of that. We're fully aware that if two characters in a series are naturally homosexual, we won't complain about it. We just don't like slash or "impossible" non-canon pairings.
What about gays/lesbians/bisexuals? Are you anti-homosexuals / homophobic too?
Please be aware that any gay bashing will not be tolerated. Acceptance for what is meant to be is key here. Although some members may be Anti-Slash due to some case of homophobia, that I cannot deny, we as a whole are happy to have anybody, and I mean
anybody join the club.
Members, God-forbid you have such thoughts, please keep anything personal against gays/lesbians/bisexuals, as well as slash/femmeslash-fans to yourself. Better yet, if you think you need evidence why you should accept homosexuality in our community, please send a note to the AntiSlashClub. I'd be happy to reply.
How to Join
Send a note to the AntiSlashClub. You can do so by clicking on the button with the yellow notepad on our main page.
Your note should have as the title "Join Club" with a short explanation of why you'd like to join. For fun, why don't you also add a few slash/femmeslash pairings that you dislike?
If it's taking too long, just send a note to kupocake. She'll take care of things.
Don't forget to add us to your watch so you won't miss any new updates. Please also add our club icon to your journal entry!
Note: We update the club's members and art at least every
Saturday.
Other Information: Sending Art, Contests Info, and the like
To send art to our club, please send a note with the title "New Art" as well as a link to the art you'd like for us to add in. We'll take care of the rest.
Small Contest
As you can see, our club icon is a bit bland and repetitive. That will be our contest; make a new icon for the club!
Obviously, icons are 50 pixels by 50 pixels. It does not have to be animated. Please keep it PG-13.
When we get at least 3 entries, we'll set up a deadline.
I'd like to add some ideas/give some constructive criticism to make the journal sound stronger. What should I do?
Send a note, please.
I disagree with something you said in the journal! I'm going to post an angry comment on your front page!
Post in the journal. The front page is getting crowded with heated debates. *sweatdrop*
I'm not part of your club, but I know of/made this Anti-Slash art/essay/story that you guys might like
Send a note. We'll be happy to fav the work, as well as give much loved pageviews to whoever is responsible.
Comments? Questions? Send a note or post in the journal. Journal posting will get a more diverse range of discussion and replies, FYI.
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Devious Comments
I'm watching you guys. Many of the other anti-yaoi/yuri clubs were just homophobic. You guys take the issue with decency and maturity.
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Do you like going on an Adventure?
Do you like so much randomness that you cant take it anymore and your head just might explode?
Well if you said yes.. or no... READ THIS! [link]
If harry was older, I would like harry-snape pairing XD I know it's impossible, but still, dysfunctional relationships are fun, lol
No problem about understanding, you're a fun person to talk to because...heh..you're not yelling at me
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And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
FEED THE ZOMBIES:[link]
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Do you like Final Fantasy?
Do you like going on an Adventure?
Do you like so much randomness that you cant take it anymore and your head just might explode?
Well if you said yes.. or no... READ THIS! [link]
I see your points, and I agree with them. Unfortunately, going down to something like lolita and shouta may be too specific, and those who never heard of that term and realizing they like such things may feel ashamed in some fashion.
I'm afraid homophobia may always play a role in anything against anything related to homosexual ideas. However, I try my best to give balance to both sides. I'll see what I can do about the journal; I was a bit over my head when I wrote that.
Although, a major part of the disliking of slash goes to erotica, agreed. I've talked to people who find shounen-ai/BL a big turn-on, but when they see yaoi, they feel sick. Like I mentioned earlier, if things become too specific, chaos is sure to happen. I've been called a genophobic, or a person who has a fear of sex, just because I said I disliked yaoi, and I don't want members of this club to be faced with such problems. So the most reasonable thing to do for this sort of club was to generalize the whole thing. It may have its flaws, but at least people who feel the same way could have a stand on their beliefs.
I apologize for making a shorter reply then yours, but I'm fired up to change the journal. Once again, I'm impressed.
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
That said, I can see this club is starting to take a more "politically correct" stance against slash, but looking at all the text, there are a lot of kinks to work out.
IE:
It's estimated that 1 in 10 of the worlds population is gay. Saying that-
What about characters whose sexuality isn't explicitly stated (characters that are chronically asexual)? Is it to be assumed that because there are straight counterparts, that they are also straight?
What about characters such as Sirius Black- who, despite having multiple girls throw themselves at him, was canonically stated as being oblivious to them (see "Snapes Worst Memory, OOTP)?
Where does bisexuality come into play?
How do we take into account adolescents, where they may have yet to explore and become confident in their sexuality?
That said, I have a few qualms with the terminology in your journal.
"It tarnishes the names of already-established characters!"
"slash completely destroys their characters by making them in love and homosexual"
"Often times, it's also quite repulsive, especially with young characters in the fanfiction/fanart/fancomic "
"Disgusted by the sheer amount of erotic slash pairings seen in fanfiction/fanart/fancomics"
"We're just tired of going to an online community and seeing people post up threads about how "hot" so-and-so would go together with what's-his-face."
"Not enthusiastic of the idea altogether. Whether we be homophobes or just dislike non-canon pairings, we just dislike slash/femmeslash."
Tarnishing carries negative connotations- "to diminish or destroy the purity of; stain; sully." Not to mention, repulsive- "repungent, contrary to ones principles", disgusted- "to cause loathing or nausea; to offend the moral sense", and destroying their character (destroying their character how?) After reading that alone, I would be justified in claiming you're homophobic.
Being disgusted with erotica is fine- but there's just as much straight erotica as slash- maybe you should be protesting the sexualization of these characters in general (lolita, chan, shouta, lolicon). You also get the "that would be so hot" topics concerning straight pairings. And lastly, if you are going to cite homophobia as a valid reason for dissaproval of slash, you're harboring homophobic behaviour.
I think it's a double standard to allow pairings that haven't been explicitely stated as long as they're heterosexual and fit your perception of the characters- in that case, don't say you're for canon-pairings, say you're for canon-het pairings.
You're entitled to your opinion, preferences, and club- I'm one of those people who will cheer on protesters, even if they're advocating an opinion I don't agree with, simply because it takes a lot of courage to do so. I just think there needs to be some consistency and foundation if that will be your defense.
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And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
FEED THE ZOMBIES:[link]
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Do you like Final Fantasy?
Do you like going on an Adventure?
Do you like so much randomness that you cant take it anymore and your head just might explode?
Well if you said yes.. or no... READ THIS! [link]
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And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
FEED THE ZOMBIES:[link]
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Do you like Final Fantasy?
Do you like going on an Adventure?
Do you like so much randomness that you cant take it anymore and your head just might explode?
Well if you said yes.. or no... READ THIS! [link]
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And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
FEED THE ZOMBIES:[link]
The only actual time I can say that Sakura and Tomoyo are really in love was a certain drawing CLAMP drew of them *almost* kissing. Other then that, in the actual storyline, it's more hinting that Sakura doesn't really understand that Tomoyo likes her, and just accepting her as a best friend.
In any case, thanks for the compliment. I hope that this will bring the Anti Slash community is a more positive light. Although, that's near impossible these days.
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
You have to be careful that you don't allow non-canon heterosexual shipping as well. Harry X Hermione may seem likely in your mind, but it's not canon. Just make sure you're keeping to your stated terms.
I do agree that it's good to see an anti-slash club that doesn't go mindlessly bashing anyoen that writes slash or femmeslash.
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Do you like Final Fantasy?
Do you like going on an Adventure?
Do you like so much randomness that you cant take it anymore and your head just might explode?
Well if you said yes.. or no... READ THIS! [link]
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
I can't doubt the fact Tomoyo likes Sakura, but Sakura doesn't exactly feel the same way towards Tomoyo. If at least one character in the pairing doesn't really have that romantic-type of feeling towards the other, then it's considered non-canon.
I have no idea when there's going to be art here.
In my experience, some "shipping" pairings actually make sense, like Harry and Hermione. However, something like Snape x Hermione makes almost no sense to me. I think both sides of the spectrum (slash and shipping) experience the same seriously weird pairings. I consider Sakura x Tomoyo barely non-canon, but just enough to make it to the femmeslash list.
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
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And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
FEED THE ZOMBIES:[link]
I just don't want you guys to get bashed later for calling it femmeslash when it's already been established as a pairing in the series.
I can't point out exactly when it was established, but I think Tomoyo actually said that she had a crush on Sakura at one time...haven't seen/read CCS in forever, so I'm sorry if I got the wrong info
I'm also wondering if anyone's going to submit any art for this club, since a lot of the people I've seen in this club have good art and all..also, are you fans of 'shipping', as in a male and female character who haven't been established yet? Such as Harry-Hermione or Ron-Hermione, etc. etc?
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And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
FEED THE ZOMBIES:[link]
But I stopped. And decided to ignore the things that was bothering me <_<
(( And... about your webcam, yeah I know the show
I seen it X3
I even have the song.. I know it by heart
Vhen der Führer say... VE IST HER MASTER RACE, VE HEIL !, HEIL !... Right in her Führer's face... XDD.. awesome. ... I have the show in my links on my journal << )
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((*laughs* Well, you could watch the cartoon on Youtube if you're interested. It's called "Der Fuehrer's Face." Probably one of my favorite Disney cartoons ever.))
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
Yeah, well, I guess it's your point of view.
>_o but I don't consider you as my ennemy... Eh...
(( and off subject: I love your webcam picture X) )
But .. I dunno. Every anti-thing club is... useless for me.
I'm anti "I draw popular things".... You know XD
But I won't create a club. I just ignore the people who do it and draw what I want to draw.
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I never said I expect 300 members to join. Most clubs on dA, whether it be Pro or Anti, have less then 30 members. What gave you that idea?
Of course people will bash us. That's what I'm here for. *smiles*
The agressivity of the club is up for discussion. I feel that slash fans are way over their heads, but some people just joined because they don't like slash, not the fans. Sure, this may provoke some slash-loving people, but "I Love Slash" clubs also provoke us slash-hating members. It's a fair deal.
I have defended my fair share of slash fanfiction writers before, mainly because they received one too many flames from very homophobic people. However, when a person openly comes up to a discussion saying "Say NO to SasukexSakura, or any straight pairings in general," it ticks me off. True story.
I've seen some rather random Anti Clubs before. On Gaia Online, there's an Anti-Cheese Cult. This club is rather rational compared to that.
Slash is an idea, therefore, it's rational to have two sides of the spectrum. Red is a word to describe a certain color. The sun is the word to describe that fiery ball of gas that lights our world. Most people who make anti clubs for these are usually doing it for fun.
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Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.
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